Ah, thank you. Sitting behind such established veterans, what did you get out of watching them play?
I learned a lot about Tony's experiences. Those guys were at an age where they had things set and how they did things. Every goalkeeper operates differently from training philosophy to their work ethic to how much they watch tape. So for Tony, he's obviously been through a lot. When I was ten years old, I was gifted a pair of goalie gloves every Christmas. Tony Meola’s 94 World Cup Reusch gloves some of my favorite gloves growing up. So coming from that point was a little surreal, that, there you were, training with one of the goalkeepers you used to watch in the World Cup for the US for however many 100 caps he had. So that was pretty cool. But once you get there you're a pro and you're competing.
For Meola, he was so good with his feet and he was so good with both feet. I don't think people gave him enough credit about that. He was really, really good with his feet and he always seemed to know when pressure was there the most and when his team needed a big save and he generally came up in those moments. For Bo, Bo was just a great guy. With Bo, probably the most important thing I learned was that you're going to be training goalkeepers through your career. If you're lucky, a decade. And there’s the realization that only one of us is going to play but there's no reason to come into work hostile or make it uncomfortable for everyone there training and working. We can all work hard to compete but we can still do it and be good friends. So that was pretty cool how he accepted me and how he brought it all together.
There was never any contentious moments. I've never had a situation ever where a backup or anybody who I was competing with where we were enemies. We were all really good friends. Looking back, it's a lot of fun to say "Yeah, I competed with this guy for six years,” like Gruenebaum, but now we're really good friends and we call almost weekly still.
In 2006, you’re picked up in the expansion draft for Toronto FC. Were you disappointed to leave KC?
I guess from a soccer standpoint I was happy to leave. I had built up a lot of relationships and friendships with those guys so you don't want to leave those guys. But from a soccer standpoint it needed to happen. If I wasn't going anywhere then I was going to be a backup again in Kansas City. I know they were going to look to bring in a starter. They weren't going to, probably, give me a fair shake at the starting position so I was looking to go somewhere else. It really wasn't until the last second that Columbus was going to take me.
Why didn’t you feel like you were going to get a fair shot? Because of your age?
Yeah, I think it was age. I was improving. I think that Peter Vermes, we had a brief conversation, had a respect for my talent and ability but I don't think he was willing to, more than his head coach would, stick his claim on a twenty-four year old goalkeeper with three starts behind him. I think it made sense that they wanted someone more proven at that time. And I was looking to play and honestly if I wasn't going to get a chance to go compete then I was heading to law school, which I had already applied to.
So in these first couple years, were you set on playing as long as you could? Or were you willing to stop playing to pursue other things?
Well the first couple years were pretty disappointing to not get a chance to play. I thought especially in year two that I should… I'll say this, by year two, I was number two to Bo Ohsonoi. I knew I was capable of playing and being a starter and succeeding in the league. So it kind of became something that I had to accomplish before I could walk away. If I had walked away after year three and only had three starts and never really proven it not only to myself but to others that I was good enough to be a starter, I would have left with some regret. So at that point, I thought, “Alright, I know I can prove that I'm a starter. I know I can prove that I can be a successful starter and a championship caliber goalkeeper.” Now will the opportunity present itself? That's not something I could control. But I have to keep going in hopes that that opportunity arises and that I can prove it. So luckily Columbus stepped up and gave me that shot.
In the expansion draft, you’re actually selected by Toronto first then immediately traded to Columbus? What was that experience like?
Yeah it was nuts. This is a really good story. I was actually caravanning from Kansas City to Springfield, Missouri at the time of the draft. Let's see... it was Davy Arnaud, Jack Jewsbury, Taylor Graham. There were about five or six of us young guys and there were about two or three of us to a car. I was driving behind, I believe, Jack and Davy. And I got a phone call from a blocked number. We all had joked about who was going to be taken in the expansion draft. I got a random call saying "He Will, this is so-and-so from Toronto, we've taken you in the expansion draft." But it didn't sound real. My first reaction was "Fuck you. No you didn't." *laughs* We thought it was one of our buddies, either Davy or Jack or one of the other guys because we had done that all the time. You know, we'd call each other on the bus after one of the games and one of Taylor Graham's favorite things to do was to say, "Hey this is Rich Mahoney from Soccer America. Davy, what'd you think about that game tonight?" *laughs* We messed around with people so I thought for sure it was one of those guys playing a joke on me. But I think I caught him off guard so he said, "Nooo, we've drafted you but we're probably going to trade you. We'll be in touch." And that was it.
And I guess a couple hours later you heard from Columbus?
Yeah and then two hours later I was trying on my tuxedo for the wedding and got a call from Sigi [Schmid].
You talked about your relationship with Gruenbaum. In 2007 he starts the first ten games of the season and you finish the rest. Can you elaborate on that season?
I came into preseason and the first day of preseason I tore my hamstring running a timed sixty meter sprint. So that preseason was really rough. In fact that whole first half of the year was really tough. Sigi had taken a chance on me and put a lot of faith in me. He released Jon Busch for me and now I was hurt.
So I went through a pretty grueling rehab. I even spent some time at Bayern Munich with their team doctor for rehab. Finally by game eleven, I was in shape and pretty good form. And we went on a really good run. In fact, I'd argue we were probably one of the better teams the last half of the year until we lost Chad Marshall to concussion issues. And I think that really set the stage for what we were able to do in 2008.