Everybody Soccer Update - March 2018

I don't do a ton of updates about the site - to be honest I can't remember the last one I've done here - but I wanted to keep readers up to date as I've been fairly quiet for a while. I'm currently working on two big projects and half-working on a number of articles.

1. Return of the Podcast - I'm reviving the podcast with help from a number of guests. I enjoy talking goalkeeping to others and oddly enough, don't enjoy having to record solely myself talking for an extended amount of time. So the middle ground is recording people talking to me about goalkeeping, which I've thoroughly enjoyed much more this go around. I currently have a couple of episodes burning a hole in my back pocket but the idea is to do a bi-monthly release from here on out.

The first episode of "season 2" can currently be found on iTunes. If you search "Everybody Soccer" on the iTunes store you should be able to locate it in the podcast section. Or you can listen to the latest episode on the site, featuring the one and only Stan Anderson.

2. Automated GSAR - The second big project is releasing an automated version of my GSAR (goals saved above replacement). It's something I've flirted with for the past four years and while I can't completely automate it for every action a goalkeeper makes, I've gotten pretty close. Frankly I don't think a completely automated goalkeeping stat assesses goalkeepers correctly, as there are a number of situations where we don't have the sample size to test against a formula.

That said, out of 230 non-passing actions I've charted, I've only "fixed" seven by hand. The rest are compiled by a formula and without bias, which I'm pretty happy about. It's a lot of work and something I want to present for the first time (whenever that happens) correctly.

3. Upcoming articles - As for articles, I'm hoping to release a top 100 list for the men at the start of next month and one for the women not long after. (I'm currently waiting for the NWSL season to get rolling before I put my foot in my mouth.) I'm also working with soccer historian Steve Holroyd on a top 10 list for American goalkeepers, sorted by decade. There's another post listing all the off-field charity work I've seen from goalkeepers in the past year, which is surprisingly extensive. I've half-started another article as a plea for which goalkeepers should be in the US Soccer Hall of Fame but with everything else going on... we'll see.

As for current content, I've just added a new article which is actually a response to an email I received but just reformated into a post. Nothing groundbreaking but hopefully something I can cite for parents and collegiate goalkeepers down the line.

Q&A With a Parent of a Prospective Student-Athlete

Recently I received an email from a parent whose son is bound for a Division I program. They asked a few questions that will hopefully be beneficial for more than just one parent, as I've seen similar questions asked more than once. I've reformatted the answers and changed the goalkeeper's name to keep anonymity.

 

What’s the average number of years that a college goalkeeper plays before being drafted?

Goalkeepers seem to be an exception when it comes to getting into MLS. A number of field players will leave college early (as they should) but college develops goalkeepers more consistently. So staying all four years isn't a knock on them. The only way a goalkeeper can enter MLS before graduating is through a homegrown contract or a Generation Adidas contract, which the latter is offered to underclassmen specifically. So if I had to ballpark the answer to your question, I would say 3.5+. For every one JT Marcinkowski and Evan Louro, there are another ten goalkeepers who stayed all four years.

 

Does D1, D2, D3, or NAIA make a difference?

Coming from a D1 program most certainly makes a difference, although it's not impossible to overcome the stigma of not being D1. Tim Melia was a D2 goalkeeper and now with USL opening up, there are a number of non-D1 goalkeepers in the system. But for those non-D1 goalkeepers, they either have to be very fortunate (USL teams will occasionally sign local kids, Reno FC and Las Vegas for example) or have an extensive list of connections. D1 goalkeepers can ride off their accomplishments more securely than non-D1 goalkeepers can. It's an uphill climb that favors D1 goalkeepers, but not inherently impossible for the rest.

 

Does conference make a difference (ACC, Big 10, Big East, etc.)?

I would sincerely doubt conferences have any real sway when it comes to draft time. A number of goalkeepers have come from smaller conferences over the past years. If anything, I might think playing in a competitive conference could hurt a goalkeeper in terms of publicity. Teams seem to gravitate towards "first team all-conference" goalkeepers over second teamers, even if the latter was only named behind a stud USYNT goalkeeper. 

In terms of development, you could argue top conferences develop better goalkeepers but I personally haven't noticed that. Top schools recruit better goalkeepers, but I wouldn't say playing in the Pac-12 is necessarily going to make a better goalkeeper than C-USA. There are a lot of other factors that go into it.

 

Once drafted, how long do they last?

There are one or two career goalkeepers in every draft but most goalkeepers have trouble catching on in MLS. If you go back over the last five drafts, I would expect maybe at least a quarter of them to already be out of the league, with most of them with other teams. Teams are either drafting potential starters or guys to just fill the roster. So unless they're really banking on the goalkeeper to blossom down the line, they can easily ship them out. This is an exhausting experience for players so a number of them will retire earlier than they could have, although understandably so.

Ryan Bacic and the Washington Post recently published an article on top newcomers walking away from the game much earlier than expected.

 

Does national team appearances (youth or adult) factor in?

USYNT call-ups absolutely make a difference. If a player is called into a camp or two, they will wear their "USYNT badge" for the rest of their career, similar to how we call people "doctors" after finishing their dissertation. It truly is uncanny of how USYNT alumni are viewed, as if they just need to tap into this unlimited potential they have stored somewhere. This is twice as important for players who were invited into at least one USMNT cap.

I hope that helps, let me add one more thing to help explain the process a little better.

Publicity is more important than talent in regards to getting your foot in the door of a professional team. The USYNT badge is one example of this. MLS academy status and coaching connections are some others. Teams are more likely to bring in a familiar goalkeeper than take a gamble on an unknown. To some extent, I understand the thought process behind this, but it's too extreme for me. Too many goalkeepers are starting their careers with teams in USL or Europe instead of MLS because teams aren't familiar enough with a senior that was off the radar.

So remember this as y'all move forward. Make as many connections as y'all can. Play in a summer league with a good team that will take care of Reece, attend goalkeeper training sessions with different high profile goalkeeper coaches, make sure MLS goalkeeper coaches see his highlight tape, etc. If no one knows of Reece when he graduates, regardless of how good he is, he will have a very hard time making the jump.

Libby Stout Interview: On Her Retirement, Career, and What Lies Ahead

Libby Stout is an American goalkeeper who most recently played for Apollon Limassol in Cyprus, before quietly announcing her retirement. Stout graduated from Western Kentucky University then traveled to France in 2012 to start her career in Europe. After five seasons in Europe and another two years in the NWSL, Stout is stepping away from the game.

Stout played for Liverpool from 2013-2014, before returning to the US.

Stout played for Liverpool from 2013-2014, before returning to the US.

You’ve recently decided to hang up your cleats after a positive Champions League run with Apollon Limassol. This seems fairly abrupt as you returned to action from an injury not too long ago. How long had you been weighing retirement?

I started my professional career knowing a few things. I wanted to play out my season in France, play in Germany, England if possible, finish my career in America, and win a championship somewhere along the way. That was a rough outline, but I clearly remember thinking this exact thought when I was sitting in my small 6th-floor apartment in Yzeure, France. I look back on it now and sometimes cannot believe all of that fell into place, not to mention gaining lifelong friends, memories, Cyprus, Champions League and, fortunately, the list goes on and on.

Retiring was always something I contemplated. I’m a planner. Not a diligent planner, but a rough idea planner. So I always thought of life after soccer, wondering what I would do (now leaning towards coaching and/or sales) and the circumstances around that inevitable time.

I came to Boston having recently dislocated my collarbone in England. I had muscle strains throughout that first Breakers season. I came back for the second season as strong and fit as ever but messed up my ankle in a training session. Mentally I was done. Truthfully, each injury mentally chipped away at me, but, selfishly perhaps, I couldn’t muster up the courage to give it up. Someone had to muster the courage for me. And I, from the bottom of my heart, am grateful for Matt Beard knowing me like he does and knowing I wasn’t myself. He did the hard part for me, which seems to be a theme for many coaches: having to do the hard part. It’s not an easy job and the amount of respect I have for my own coaches and teachers, and all those I never had, is immense.

So, in short, I knew I wanted to hang it up after the ankle injury. Matt sat me down and let me go. I was crying tears of rejection and sadness, but surprisingly more so, of relief and freedom. I felt I regained some control over my destiny at that point. Be done for good or give it a short last go. Cogs started turning and I had the opportunity to go on a 3-month retirement trip to Cyprus. And a lovely one it was.

 

After the 2015 season you left Liverpool to join the Breakers but, like you said, were plagued with injuries in 2016. You made ten starts for the Breakers before being released going into the 2017 season. With so many ups and downs, how do you look back on your move to Boston? Is there any regret in making the move away from Liverpool?

I absolutely do not regret leaving Liverpool. I made that decision with 100% clarity and surety. And that is NO slight to Liverpool and my experiences there in any way. That club and my friends I left behind know how much I love them, and if they don’t know they should know how much gratitude and love I have for them.

Boston gave me a new professional and personal challenge. Realistically, I’m a little disappointed I never really got the chance to play my best there but that experience is one I feel extremely fortunate to have had.

 

With Cyprus’ top club, Apollon Limassol, you finished top of the group stage in the Champions League, qualifying for the round of 32. How did you rebound from the setbacks in 2015-16? What advice would you give a young player who is recovering from an injury?

In Cyprus, I felt like myself for the first time in a long time on and off the field. I was training and playing well and genuinely happy. It was a similar feeling to when I first acquainted myself with Europe in 2012, so it was fitting to rediscover that feeling where it started. It was calming to go into that knowing I was giving myself the opportunity to close my career on my own note. All I ever wanted to get back to was the opportunity to do my job to the best of my ability and contribute to the team through my play. I hadn’t done that since my first year at Liverpool in 2014, so three years was a long time coming.

My advice would be not to quit based on just an injury. Use an injury as motivation to come back stronger, smarter, and wiser. Use that off time during an injury to learn and take notes. But, don’t forget to take care of and listen to yourself. If your ultimate goal is to come back stronger and fitter, DO IT. If you feel it’s time to move on to your next chapter, DO IT. You are the only one who knows what you really want and what’s ultimately best for you. And don’t be afraid to seek help.

 

It’s unfortunately much more common for players to retire before 30 on the women’s side than the men’s. As you’re stepping away from the game and looking back, where is the biggest need for the game to grow? And what’s something fans on the outside don’t get a clear picture of?

Sustainability-wise I always felt more stable as a pro player in Europe. My contract was guaranteed and the possibilities felt endless. I never really had that feeling in the States and I’m not really sure how to create that feeling. But if there were a goal in mind for the league here I’d make that it, security and stability.

Fans don’t get a clear picture of how important their presence and passion is and how much it’s appreciated. We live and breathe by your cheers and self-motivate and grind by your jeers. May they never stop. And may that little girl on the sideline continue to burst with inspiration.

 

Your career has taken you all over the world, playing in France, Germany, England, and Cyprus. How does a goalkeeper from Louisville, Kentucky reflect on such an illustrious career?

In short, my dreams wouldn’t have formed without the fierce Brianna Scurry, my competitive spirit without my older brother, self-motivation without my competition, championships without my teammates, leadership without my coaches, good looks without my parents. No, but seriously, I’m proud and I’m grateful and I want to say thank you.

 

Can you give fans an update on what's next for you? As you said you're a planner so I assume you have something already lined up?

I'm feeling out my future. Currently, I'm working at the top beer distribution company in Boston, but during my last year of playing, I started to think more seriously about coaching. Ideally I'd love to coach college or professional. I also have my own keeper training platform, Stout Goalkeeping, which provides personalized one-on-one training. I have a vision in mind to provide some type of mentorship and help shed light on the possibilities for women to play professionally abroad, even flirting with the idea of becoming an agent. So we will see. Right now I'm just trying to be patient and enjoy what I'm doing every day, whilst working my way up through the coaching licenses and keeping an ear out for opportunities.

 

Lastly, what’s a moment from your career that you'll never forget?

My lasting memory is parading the FAWSL Champions trophy with my Liverpool Ladies team before a sold-out crowd, standing ovation applause at Anfield. Unforgettable.